First off, yes Brett Hull is a cheater and doesn't deserve a cup ring but he was nice enough to sign my items twice. I got the 4x6 back in August when I thought my cards were goners, but they weren't! Everything is singed beautifully in blue sharpie. The 4x6 was sent to his home and only took a couple of months. The cards were sent to the Dallas Stars and they took about 1 year.